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it was a price house conservatives demanded for delaying the debt ceiling just by three months. so this is a deal that republicans made with their members just this week, a deal that will define our budget arguments over the next week. they made this deal, if you don't force us into a politically disastrous showdown, we'll do it with an equally disastrous budget deal. i don't understand what is happening in the republican party right now, but it is not good for them. joining me now, robert greenstein, a man who always understands exactly what is happening. bob, good to see you. >> good to see you, ezra. >> so i guess my question is how, how do you make the budget balance in ten years, and keep to all of these different promises? do you know budget -- you know budgets better than anybody i know, so how? >> so there are three things to start with, and you have already mentioned perhaps the most important. he will take advantage of the revenue increases from the fiscal cliff deal. the second thing is since ryan issued his budget a year ago, the congressional budget office who does
it was a price house conservatives demanded for delaying the debt ceiling just by three months. so this is a deal that republicans made with their members just this week, a deal that will define our budget arguments over the next week. they made this deal, if you don't force us into a politically disastrous showdown, we'll do it with an equally disastrous budget deal. i don't understand what is happening in the republican party right now, but it is not good for them. joining me now, robert...
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the debt ceiling has been raised, at least temporarily, but there are still big decisions to be made. you specifically said in the last few days that your priority is to make a big down payment on the debt. a debt crisis that you see in this country. >> that's right. >> what do you specifically require? what's the priority? what has the president got to do in your point of view? >> i'll just explain what the speaker said when we passed that bill. our goal is to get cuts and reforms that put us on a path to balancing the budget in a decade. we think the senate ought to offer a budget. they haven't passed a budget in four years, even though we have a law that says we need a budget every year. we haven't seen any solutions offered by the president on how to get the budget balanced, pay down the debt, and no budget in four years. we need to figure out how to grow the economy, how to get opportunity. and if we have a debt crisis like they had in europe, everybody gets hurt. that's what we want to avoid. >> last week, senator schumer said, we'll do a budget. >> great. finally. it's been fou
the debt ceiling has been raised, at least temporarily, but there are still big decisions to be made. you specifically said in the last few days that your priority is to make a big down payment on the debt. a debt crisis that you see in this country. >> that's right. >> what do you specifically require? what's the priority? what has the president got to do in your point of view? >> i'll just explain what the speaker said when we passed that bill. our goal is to get cuts and...
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come up until august if the senate passes the debt ceiling bill this week. but republicans increasingly believe that the $1.2 trillion in automatic spending cuts in the sequester are going to happen come march 1st. >> we think these sequesters will happen, because the democrats have opposed our efforts to replace those cuts with others and they've offered no alternatives. >> house speaker john boehner recently told "the wall street journal" that the sequester, quote, is as much leverage as we're going to get. but does the gop actually stand to lose more than it gains? i'm joined by "washington post" columnist, and msnbc policy analyst, ezra klein, who has written about this. good morning, ezra. >> good morning. >> in one of your columns, you wrote that republicans are wrong to think that the sequester gives them leverage. what's your reasoning? >> it's just become a somewhat bizarre conversation. look, you have to go back. the sequester, it's a very weird, kind of boring word. it comes out of the debt ceiling deal in 2011 and it was the backup to the superco
come up until august if the senate passes the debt ceiling bill this week. but republicans increasingly believe that the $1.2 trillion in automatic spending cuts in the sequester are going to happen come march 1st. >> we think these sequesters will happen, because the democrats have opposed our efforts to replace those cuts with others and they've offered no alternatives. >> house speaker john boehner recently told "the wall street journal" that the sequester, quote, is as...
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now, in order to get the votes to allow the debt ceiling to be raised three months, speaker boehner promised his members the opportunity to vote on a budget that would be balanced within ten years. you can't tell people between 55 and 65, don't listen to this anyway. cure not going to be affected by this. if you balance the budget in ten years. so they're their challenge in winning over americans to the vision of smaller government and practical way is getting tougher. gwen: when you see something like the senator from georgia who says today he's not going to run. he said nothing to do with the fact he split had tea party challenge coming up. but people like that, mitch mcconnell, senate minority leader, getting a little nervous. >> i think that is a real link between what john is talking about. in that the people who are in office have got to worry about the tea party and its demands for these really significant cuts. and then you have r.n.c. down in charlotte saying, let's not focus on those things anymore at an event, by the way, where no tea party person was invited. how can they balls t
now, in order to get the votes to allow the debt ceiling to be raised three months, speaker boehner promised his members the opportunity to vote on a budget that would be balanced within ten years. you can't tell people between 55 and 65, don't listen to this anyway. cure not going to be affected by this. if you balance the budget in ten years. so they're their challenge in winning over americans to the vision of smaller government and practical way is getting tougher. gwen: when you see...
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for spending cuts for every dollar in debt ceiling raised. that is not what you got this time. and you have put the focus on senate democrats, a political tactic, perhaps a very successful one. but is that really a tactical retreat? >> i don't think so at all, chuck. and i was curious to hear steny's comments about this being a gimmick. 86 democrats supported the bill that we had on the floor yesterday, the no budget, no pay, so clearly they didn't think it was a gimmick. this was a bipartisan effort. look, if you look at the goal, we've got to get our fiscal house in order, we've got to balance the budget, and in order to do that, the senate actually has to produce a budget, which they haven't done in nearly four years. the house has had budgets for each of the last two years that actually get to balance. so what we did, in this bill, is to say to the senate, look, you've got to do a budget. families do budgets, businesses do budgets, employers do budgets. the senate has not done a budget in nearly four years, so this is the challenge for th
for spending cuts for every dollar in debt ceiling raised. that is not what you got this time. and you have put the focus on senate democrats, a political tactic, perhaps a very successful one. but is that really a tactical retreat? >> i don't think so at all, chuck. and i was curious to hear steny's comments about this being a gimmick. 86 democrats supported the bill that we had on the floor yesterday, the no budget, no pay, so clearly they didn't think it was a gimmick. this was a...
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the debt ceiling ultimately unless they get severe spending cuts and the obama administration is not going to give it to them. you're going to watch the u.s. do crazy, crazy things this year. >> he was pretty clear. he called it crazy. i talked to eric cantor earlier, the republican majority leader. he sort of said we're ready to deal and compromise, but people are very worried about what the u.s. could do. >> oh, and this latest decision to just kick the can, i hate to use the cliche, further down the road, axel neighbor is a former central banker in europe, also the head of ubs and he was absolutely in no doubt that what we are seeing in the u.s. in the political and economic process is dangerous. >> if you have the debt ceiling, the europeans will talk about how you can make that binding. in the u.s., the concern is much more whether you can lift it in time in order not to put too much break on the economy. now, the u.s. economy has bottomed out, it's coming back, and i think sooner or later the u.s. has to face the fiscal issue not just in the sense of delaying adjustment but rea
the debt ceiling ultimately unless they get severe spending cuts and the obama administration is not going to give it to them. you're going to watch the u.s. do crazy, crazy things this year. >> he was pretty clear. he called it crazy. i talked to eric cantor earlier, the republican majority leader. he sort of said we're ready to deal and compromise, but people are very worried about what the u.s. could do. >> oh, and this latest decision to just kick the can, i hate to use the...
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congress voted to suspend the debt ceiling for three months this week, effectively raising the country's borrowing limit while they figure out deeper cuts to reduce the deficit. that keeps me employed for at least a few more months. even before that deadline hits again, march 1st will be on us, the so-called sequester deadline. that's a stupid washington name for a stupid and dangerous washington creation, the automatic across-the-board spending cuts. then there's another date to worry about, april 15th. not just tax filing day but the date by which congress has promised to adopt a budget resolution. they even this time stake their pay on it, agreeing to reach a deal or face suspension of their paychecks until they reach a deal. that might just be enough of a carrot to make them actually present a budget that takes on our a bah looning deficit. but that battle may make the recent battle over tax hikes for the rich seem like a friendly game of badminton. big spending cuts are needed and they will hit americans where it hurts -- in their entitlements. i'm talking about health care, medicar
congress voted to suspend the debt ceiling for three months this week, effectively raising the country's borrowing limit while they figure out deeper cuts to reduce the deficit. that keeps me employed for at least a few more months. even before that deadline hits again, march 1st will be on us, the so-called sequester deadline. that's a stupid washington name for a stupid and dangerous washington creation, the automatic across-the-board spending cuts. then there's another date to worry about,...
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once again finds itself locking horns with republicans over the issue of raising the debt ceiling. the amount of money the nation is legally allowed to borrow. >> oh, yeah. when it comes to raising the debt ceiling, the president is having a hard time getting it up. >> brian williams does such a good job slow jamming. that's going to wrap things up for me today. i'm going to see you tomorrow, 11:00 a.m. eastern. joining us richard bloomen thaul and debbie wasserman schultz and david ciciline and mayor greg stanton of phoenix. you should have seen the way it was spelled in my prompter. you should have seen it, alex. you can't. you know? they try to make things easier for me, and then i just mess it up. now with alex wagner coming up next. don't go anywhere. yes she is, yes she is. [ bop ] [ male announcer ] could've had a v8. 100% vegetable juice, with three of your daily vegetable servings in every little bottle. in that time there've been some good days. and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why s
once again finds itself locking horns with republicans over the issue of raising the debt ceiling. the amount of money the nation is legally allowed to borrow. >> oh, yeah. when it comes to raising the debt ceiling, the president is having a hard time getting it up. >> brian williams does such a good job slow jamming. that's going to wrap things up for me today. i'm going to see you tomorrow, 11:00 a.m. eastern. joining us richard bloomen thaul and debbie wasserman schultz and david...
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and what would happen if we don't raise the debt ceiling right away? well, if we don't, we would have to have a 25% cut in all government spending, and that's -- that's pretty massive. that's pretty problematic. now, the administration and some actually go way overboard in the threats that they attach to this. they threaten to inflict the maximum possible economic damage if the debt ceiling isn't raised promptly upon the point at which they run out of their maneuvering room. so you hear threats about default on our debt and senior citizens won't get their social security check and our military folks won't get paid, all kinds of the most disruptive, most damaging and most dangerous kinds of outcomes are threatened by the administration. now, this is unnecessary, this isn't true, this isn't what would happen, but there is an incentive, of course, to try to scare and intimidate republicans into giving the administration the unconditional ability to just keep on borrowing and spending as they have been doing, and that's why we hear this. well, what my amen
and what would happen if we don't raise the debt ceiling right away? well, if we don't, we would have to have a 25% cut in all government spending, and that's -- that's pretty massive. that's pretty problematic. now, the administration and some actually go way overboard in the threats that they attach to this. they threaten to inflict the maximum possible economic damage if the debt ceiling isn't raised promptly upon the point at which they run out of their maneuvering room. so you hear threats...
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for decades, raising the debt ceiling was something that congress has been willing to do. since the presidency of fdr, congress has to do. since fdr, congress voted to raise it literally dozens of times. the way we run the country, for generations, you may not like it. it is how we use the debt ceiling, we have raised it 89 times just between 1939 and 2010. the only time we haven't had to raise it in recent years was at the very end of the clinton administration when we started to run a budget surplus, remember that? but other than that, it happens as a matter of course. it is routine, but in 2010, the republicans decided they wouldn't do it anymore. and in the standoff, where they said they wouldn't do it again, even though it was done with presidents before them, they were not going to do it. the country could default on its debts, that was an economic disaster. check it out. this is job growth, month to month in the year 2011. during that time when it is weirdly suppressed, oh, yeah, it is the fight over the debt ceiling. so when you hear others say oh yeah, it shouldn'
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republicans agreed to raise the debt ceiling. that took away a little bit of their leverage going into negotiations at the end of february. here comes paul ryan. where has he been? he is making this line in the sand now. i think the white house is concerned because this could hurt the economy going forward if we go through these deep cuts and right now the white house is saying we need to keep the economy moving. we have to keep all eyes on that and continue to have growth and jobs. there is concern for the white house. >> ryan took one of his famous charts on "meet the press." you can tell immediately what he thinks the problem is, more spending cuts are needed. paul ryan says increasing revenue is off the table for now. the gop, the tax hikes during the fiscal cliff stuff. do they do it again? >> he was also asked and side stepped whether or not you could close loopholes. it is another way to get revenue. that is what david gregory asked him. he had a nonresponse response to that. there are other ways to get revenue than across
republicans agreed to raise the debt ceiling. that took away a little bit of their leverage going into negotiations at the end of february. here comes paul ryan. where has he been? he is making this line in the sand now. i think the white house is concerned because this could hurt the economy going forward if we go through these deep cuts and right now the white house is saying we need to keep the economy moving. we have to keep all eyes on that and continue to have growth and jobs. there is...
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and house nearly three months to raise the debt ceiling. >> look, i understand why they want to move the initiative forward and i think there is some strategicty to the way they're doing it it and i believe the second part the of it it, congress shouldn't get paid unless a budget is passed. no one wants to miss a paycheck certainly, but i think it's a very valid point and i think that it's not unfair to say to the people if you're not going to do your job, you shouldn't get paid. >> greta: and we keep getting these, like goal posts and mile posts and three more months. >> absolutely. >> greta: six more months and another excuse-- >> in fairness, i think it's the house. if they believed they could pass a bill out of house that not only dealt with the debt limit, but with our debt problem and passed out of the senate and signed by the president they would do it in a heartbeat. that's not what they're facing. they want facing a president that wants unconditional limits and the senate hasn't passed a budget in days. i think they're trying to make the best of a bad situation. absolutely w
and house nearly three months to raise the debt ceiling. >> look, i understand why they want to move the initiative forward and i think there is some strategicty to the way they're doing it it and i believe the second part the of it it, congress shouldn't get paid unless a budget is passed. no one wants to miss a paycheck certainly, but i think it's a very valid point and i think that it's not unfair to say to the people if you're not going to do your job, you shouldn't get paid. >>...
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the senate today voted in favor of the house plan to raise the debt ceiling. no budget no pay. the bill requires the democratic controlled senate to pass a change fod will will who senate is not sucl members of congress, well, they will get paid. fox's chief political correspondent carl cameron has more. >> senators approve the already house passed a budget no paypall suspending the current debt ceiling of $16 trillion through mid may when the debts estimated to be four under and $50 billion more. the house and senate will have to pass budgets by mid april or member paychecks will be withheld. >> raising the possibility of the united states the faulting on its obligations every few months is not an ideal way to run government. but a short-term solution is better than another eminent manufactured crisis. lori: house republicans have passed budgets during the obama era and credit is salary threats of senate democrats who have not do so this year. republicans tried to pass amendments that would prioritized payments when cash runs short to pay interes first and then social security
the senate today voted in favor of the house plan to raise the debt ceiling. no budget no pay. the bill requires the democratic controlled senate to pass a change fod will will who senate is not sucl members of congress, well, they will get paid. fox's chief political correspondent carl cameron has more. >> senators approve the already house passed a budget no paypall suspending the current debt ceiling of $16 trillion through mid may when the debts estimated to be four under and $50...
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we are not going to just keep raising the debt ceiling, we are going to make a down payment on debt reduction and we are going to putt -- we are going to point the country in the right direction. we are going to cut spending. [applause] there will be times when conservatives disagree on the way forward. we never marched in lockstep. we can deliver it in private. all we should ask for each other is that we give an honest account of our actions and the reasons for them. we should challenge the left, not each other. if we take a prudent course we will be in very good company. take james madison. nowadays we call him the founder and the father of the constitution. but at the constitutional convention he lost key arguments. he fought to give each state the same number of seats in the senate. he wanted to give congress more power. he wanted them to be able to be tough state laws. in both cases, he argued vigorously for his side. in both sets -- in both cases he lost. when it came to ratify the when it came time to ratify the constitution, there was no better person than james madison. he led the ch
we are not going to just keep raising the debt ceiling, we are going to make a down payment on debt reduction and we are going to putt -- we are going to point the country in the right direction. we are going to cut spending. [applause] there will be times when conservatives disagree on the way forward. we never marched in lockstep. we can deliver it in private. all we should ask for each other is that we give an honest account of our actions and the reasons for them. we should challenge the...
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remember how they vowed they would only raise the debt ceiling by a dollar for every dollar cut in spending. now they said never mind. we'll push that down the road. the big fight will be on the sweeping spending cuts that go into effect march 1 and on the government funding that runs out on march 27. march is going to be the month to watch, and it's a month that could end in a government shutdown. >> ifill: is it the kind of fight the republicans want to have to redefine themselveses? >> i think they do. gwen, i think you have to know when to hold them and know when to fold them. yes, the republicans folded on this wise wisely. finally, i think they got some smart on this. you have to pick your fights. they need a breather now. they've been on the defense for a year on tax cuts for millionaires, on toughness, shutting down the government, they're not going to compromise. they need to recalbright here, a reset button needs to be pushed and it seems like in every aspect of government. and fight on future spending, not on obligations already incur. >> ifill: in the inaugural address this week
remember how they vowed they would only raise the debt ceiling by a dollar for every dollar cut in spending. now they said never mind. we'll push that down the road. the big fight will be on the sweeping spending cuts that go into effect march 1 and on the government funding that runs out on march 27. march is going to be the month to watch, and it's a month that could end in a government shutdown. >> ifill: is it the kind of fight the republicans want to have to redefine themselveses?...
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and we're not going to just keep raising the debt ceiling. we're going to make a down payment on debt reduction, and we're going to point the country in the right direction, we're going to cut spending. [applause] you know, there will be times p when conservatives disagree on the way forward. we've never marched in lockstep. that's not what we do. a healthy debate is a good and needed thing. we can deliberate in private without fighting in public. all we should ask of each other is that we give an honest account of our actions and their reasons for them. we should challenge the left, not each other. and if we take the prudent course, you know what? we'll be in really good company. our founders were men of prudence. take james madison. nowadays we call him the founder, the father of the constitution. but at the constitutional convention, he lost some key arguments. you know, he fought the plan to give each state the same number of seats in the senate. he thought it was deeply unjust. and at first he wants -- he wanted congress to be able to ve
and we're not going to just keep raising the debt ceiling. we're going to make a down payment on debt reduction, and we're going to point the country in the right direction, we're going to cut spending. [applause] you know, there will be times p when conservatives disagree on the way forward. we've never marched in lockstep. that's not what we do. a healthy debate is a good and needed thing. we can deliberate in private without fighting in public. all we should ask of each other is that we give...
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the continuing resolution and the debt ceiling. both of those are coming up in the next couple of months. those are leverage points that are the mirror image of the fiscal cliff. those are leverage points that if nothing passes the result is not a default on the debt. that's scaremongering from the president. those are temporary partial shutdowns. we've seen that before in 1995 when republicans stood together, and the result was some political pain, to be sure, but it was also year after year of balanced budgets and some of 9 most fiscally responsible policies from congress we have seen in modern times. \[applause] the only hope of getting anything affirmative done is requesting to come from those leverage points because president obama has indicated, sadly, he has no interest in being bill clinton. he has no interest in tacking to the middle. he has no interest in compromising with anybody, and the only way we're going to restrain the out of control spending and debt that's threatening our future is to use those leverage points to
the continuing resolution and the debt ceiling. both of those are coming up in the next couple of months. those are leverage points that are the mirror image of the fiscal cliff. those are leverage points that if nothing passes the result is not a default on the debt. that's scaremongering from the president. those are temporary partial shutdowns. we've seen that before in 1995 when republicans stood together, and the result was some political pain, to be sure, but it was also year after year...
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ceil something not raised immediately -- debt ceil something not raised immediate lid upon the expiration of this period. that's what this amendment is about. my amendment is about minimizing the risk the disruption in any event that the debt ceil something not raised at the time that the time expires. what it does is instructs the treasury detect to prioritize three categories of payment. the presiding officer: time is expired. mr. toomey: let me ask for 30 seconds to simply saddam hussein that this amendment -- to simply explain that this amendment would authorize the treasury to rates debt ceiling as necessary to cover those three categories. i would urge my colleagues to support the amendment. thank you. mr. baucus: madam president? the presiding officer: the senator from montana. mr. baucus: madam president, i appreciate the intent of the senator from pennsylvania. when you stop and think about this amendment, it reminds us of the movie and the book "hunger games." in "hunger games" you'll recall that children were pitted against each other until one survived. there are three categor
ceil something not raised immediately -- debt ceil something not raised immediate lid upon the expiration of this period. that's what this amendment is about. my amendment is about minimizing the risk the disruption in any event that the debt ceil something not raised at the time that the time expires. what it does is instructs the treasury detect to prioritize three categories of payment. the presiding officer: time is expired. mr. toomey: let me ask for 30 seconds to simply saddam hussein...
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ceiling raiseded, that will be raised for a year, maybe two. that's all we're going to get, and we'll be in the soup and having the same conversation. >> do you think that's true even if -- i mean, this is a pie in the sky scenario. what if the republicans lose the house in 2014? we are looking at the numbers as they do, they lost -- the notion that they could get a balanced budget plan in ten years is basically poppy cock, and would you have to cut discretionary spending in half in order to do that. >> frank is also right. democrats will have to come to the table too. you have to ultimately balance the budget. you can'tco what we're doing no matter what side of the aisle you're on, and so, you know, whether you think the democrats take the house or whether the republicans keep the house, ultimately something has to happen, and by the way, i do expect the democrats will come to the table with something because i think if they don't, i think that the general public is actually much more in the middle than after the election results ultimately su
ceiling raiseded, that will be raised for a year, maybe two. that's all we're going to get, and we'll be in the soup and having the same conversation. >> do you think that's true even if -- i mean, this is a pie in the sky scenario. what if the republicans lose the house in 2014? we are looking at the numbers as they do, they lost -- the notion that they could get a balanced budget plan in ten years is basically poppy cock, and would you have to cut discretionary spending in half in order...